When we talk about how mature our church is, we often think about its age, programs, or leadership structures. But the Church is none of those things—it’s people. And every person is a gift Jesus has given to his Church. The real question is… are your people mature? 

In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, I’m joined by my good friend Alan Hirsch, one of the most trusted voices in the missional movement. Together, we explore why so many churches remain stuck in growth and maturity—and how Ephesians 4 gives us a surprisingly simple key to unlocking both. We’ll see that this passage isn’t just about leadership—it’s about all of us, living in the fullness of life Jesus experienced with his Father and intended for his family.

In This Episode You’ll Learn:

• The overlooked “key” to unity and maturity found in Ephesians 4
• How to see leadership and ministry through a biblical, life-giving lens
• Why you are a gift to your church and community, given by Jesus himself!
• What happens when churches ignore or limit the 5 gifts Jesus gave to his people

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How you feel, pretty much in every moment, is connected to how you believe things are going relative to your sense of self. It is out of our identity, and perception of self, that our motives and actions flow. The Gospel answers our fallen self-obsession with a great work of grace in Christ. 

In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, we’ll examine what drives our pride and continual self-focus, and how the Gospel leads us to freedom and relational peace.

In This Episode You’ll Learn:

• How your understanding of God’s stance against pride may be wrong.
• Why we spend so much time focused on self and what others think.
• Why thinking less of yourself is not the answer to pride.
• How the Gospel leads us to focus more on Jesus and less on ourselves.

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So often, conversations about becoming a ‘missional church’ focus on the pushback or resistance we might face. But what if the people in your church are already convinced? What if they believe that discipleship really can become a way of life—and they just need some help getting started? 

This week on the Everyday Disciple Podcast, I’ll walk you through the very first steps I’d take to lead a church toward missional living. These are things you can absolutely begin doing right now—and your people will love them.

If you’ve got buy-in… even from just a few… this is your moment.

In This Episode You’ll Learn:

• Why leading motivated people requires a different kind of leadership.
• How uncovering fear and preferences opens the door to lasting change.
• The very first step I’d take to move your church toward mission.
• 3 more practical ideas to help you lead with confidence and clarity.

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