The church has been run in much the same way for decades — programs, services, buildings, conferences. And yet most of us who lead in these systems know something is off. The busyness is real, the exhaustion is real, and quietly underneath all of it is the nagging question: is any of this actually working?
In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, Caesar sits down with movement leader Nic Harding to talk about why church leaders need to reimagine what they’re leading — and what it looks like when you finally get clear on the real “win.” If you’re caught on the church treadmill, wondering what you’re actually running toward, this conversation will change how you see everything.
In This Episode You’ll Learn:
- How to clarify the “win” that Jesus actually gave us for the Church
- What to do when you find yourself exhausted and overscheduled in ministry
- How discovering your true purpose sets you free from religious busyness
- How to find People of Peace and invest in not-yet believers right where you are
